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Who cheated Telangana?

19. December 2009 by close to reality 6 Comments

excert from:

Representation of MIM on Girglani Commission Report before the Group of Ministers 

"However, a severe blow was dealt to the government employees, particularly from Telangana, during the tenure of the then Chief Minister Shri Jalagam Vengala Rao (who incidentally hailed from Khammam district in Telangana) when he ordered the compulsory retirement of as many as 11,000 employees, taking advantage of the national emergency imposed by the then Prime Minister Mrs Indira Gandhi in June 1975."


the Girglani Commission Report hghlighted many violations in Government Jobs. But the above is one example for T-Seekers to prove that they have been cheated by their own leaders too which they are ignoring knowingly but blaming the leaders of other regions.

Is not it sufficient if 610 G.O and the six point formula implemented (compulsory enforcement) right away instead of dividing the state?

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reddy
India reddy said:

Pro telangana seekers blame that people of andhra looting them, but how many of them know that TELANGANA's survival (before independence) is at the expense of the lives of the people of Andhra & Rayalaseema regions?

1)Andhra- means telugu literally, andhra pradesh means, land of telugu .
((so its baseless, to even argue with the section of telugu people who do not even know the roots and changing the word Andhra to telangana where and when ever they like..thinking that Andhra relates to coastal or rayalaseema) )

2)entire telugu land despite having many kingdoms historically ,were together during 3 great empires,satavahans,kakatiyas and the vijayanagara dynasty, the golden period.

3) it is due to the malicious intentions of alien rulers -mughals,nizams and british -the telugu land is divided in to 3 regions-telangana, northern circars or coastal and the rayalaseema.

how many people from telangana know the basest of basic facts that it is the nizam( s ) who is ( are ) the real culprits .
Friends brush up on these below facts:

during the 6 treaties nizam signed with the british

1) in 1766 1st treaty nizam gave away the northern circars to british,in return for payment of 90,000 pounds annually by the british to the nizam or british assistance to nizam when needed ( either 1 option annually).

2)in 1768- 2nd treaty- as nizam succumbed to british , had to forge a gesture of friendship ,british payed an annual allowance of 50,000 pounds.

3)in 1788 nizam gave up guntur district to british in return for an annual tribute of rs 7 lakhs.

4) in 1798, nizam signed the subsidiary alliance treaty with british.
5) in 1800, nizam ceded the 4 districts of then kadapa, ananthapur,kurnool,bellary,in return fot the payment for the maintainanace of the subsidiary force in hyderabad.

thus by 1802 coastal andhra and rayalasemma came under the rule of british , where as the telangana region remained with nizam.

6)in 1803 nizam signed another treaty with british, by which the forces of hyderabad,were placed at the disposal of british for any kind of emergency.

this is the brief glimpse of how telugu land was divided.friends i recommend all of you to read this section of history.

so my co-patriots from telangana region, i would argue, thus,nizam developed hyderabad and telangana region and protected his interests, by selling the regions of coastal andhra and rayalaseema to british for an annual fee.

so if you claim hyderbad was an already developed city for 3 to 4 hundered years,where did most of that kind of money for its development come from , in those days…………………by selling our regions , so who is exploited by whom…….

Nizam infact by selling the coastal region and rayalaseema to british , sold entire India to british in a way ,cause, british got a strong hold in India thanks to Nizam.

so indirectly who contributed to hyderabad’s development pre-independence……..

Prior to independece, great leaders from all the 3 regions together participated, motivated people from telangana region to revolt against nizam , famously called-telangana saayudha poratam, -it was not for thr formation of seperate telangana, it was a revolt against the atrocities of the nizam.
Along with the leaders from telangana , great men like chandra rajeswara rao, puchhalapalli sundariah participated to name a few……..do you know from where they are…….did they think why to bother about telugu people in telanagana…..

do you know why telanagana was socially backward mark my words socially backward not economically post independence…………solely due to dora pettanam…..instituted by nizam for his selfish needs,these doras, practised vetti chakiri-bonded slavery, to name a few reddy doras, velama doras, police patels etc etc, high caste telagana people exploiting the backwardness of the downtrodden ,but economically telangana was always viable, except, the money was loaded amongst the dora’s after nizam.

so why blame other regions for your own faults.

for every evil deed forced on innocents , god will give a boon to the innocents.
nizam was evil, he sold the coastal and rayalaseema to british, for his selfish needs.but it turned out a boon to those regions, because british built dams on krishna and godavari ,english education system was started , people got educated, etc etc………..

so my co-patriots from telangana region, to let you know, the people from coastal or rayalaseema,did not become rich or educated by exploiting telangana from decades and decades, as you’ll are proclaimimg.

TG
India TG said:

What a funny point of view..!!!  Are you a historian or just google'd to find the above?

In either case, you should have known these.


If Nizajm (while not endorsing his atrocities) sold some parts of the land to Britishers to save him self. Don't you know that we fought back and got the land back? And was it not with AP now?

Don't you know that, there are only two options available to all those dynasties while dealing with 'East India Company of British'. Either fight or concede. He like some other cowards conceded and got the money and used some part of it for the development of the society. East India Company who got some land from him later left it back with us and fled.

So, if we have some money from East India company in buidling Hyderabad, so be it. And you believe East India company taken any thing from (y)our land ask them, you/we get the similar response when you/we asked Chennai  ('Get lost in 24 hours, you andhra dogs') as the capital from Rajaji.


And reg. "great men like chandra rajeswara rao, puchhalapalli sundariah participated in telangana saayudha poratam"

Don't you know we along with people born in Pakistan (now) fought together for independent India?


Do you really want recent injustices to this land..

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ Reddy

we are waiting for your response to TGs questions.

sathish
India sathish said:

Very good.Thank you very much about your full historical information about telangana. Here no need to blame one region to other region.
I agree with you.
Here actually telangana people wishing to separate from Andhra pradesh
physically(geological boundaries)
Because of political leaders and their selfish descisns  made this present situation.
Seema,Kostha also lossed a lot in every issue but the leaders of seema have thousands of crores in swiss bank pushing their people into poverty.
Our previous leaders also made wrong descisons.
But now the separate state of issue became very strong.
Mentally people of AndhraPradesh prepared to separate one each another but friendly.

United Andhra Pradesh
United States United Andhra Pradesh said:

here you can read the facts on telangana development.
To,
The President of India,
Rashtrapathi Bhavan,
New Delhi.

Respected Madam President,

We look forward to you for your kind intervention in the matter of the demand for a separate Telangana State, as it is engineered and pushed forward by self-seeking and short-sighted small - time power brokers, politically unemployed, arousing passions and raising a bogey of “non-development” --- the two hallmarks of the Telangana movement. It hardly needs a mention that edifice of their case is based on twisted facts and doctored statistics.

The movement has already taken its toll, and it is fast moving towards spreading disaffection and hatred among people.

Thus there is an urgent need to arrest the movement and call it a bluff. Even a casual look at the statistics cited in this exhaustive note would conclusively establish how fallacious their argument is. Far from the Telangana region not making any progress,  it is this area which has registered phenomenal growth in almost all areas of development one could think of,  when compared to  both Andhra and Rayalseema regions.

Telangana’s growth
In 1955-56, there were about 22,000 schools in Andhra and Rayalseema regions whereas during the same period Telangana region had hardly 8000 schools.  After about 50 years, the numbers rose to about 55,000 in Andhra and Rayalseema regions as against (about) 41,000 schools in Telangana region.  Thus the percentage growth in the Telangana region was 413% whereas it was just about 155% in the other two regions put together.

Likewise, the percentage growth of enrolment in the Telangana region was about 916% whereas the growth was just 235% in Andhra and Rayalseema regions. Similarly there was a phenomenal increase in the number of teachers recruited in Telangana Region (366%), where as it was just normal (130%) in Andhra and Rayalseema region. Similar is the picture in respect of collegiate education too.

Barring one in Warangal and a few in the city of Hyderabad, there were absolutely no Science and Arts colleges in Telangana districts up to 1955-56, since there was no educational or other development worth its name till then. This was in direct contrast to what prevailed in Andhra and Rayalaseema regions.

In short, the formation of A.P. in 1956 was a boon to the children of Telangana region, (both urban and rural) and to-day they enjoy facilities for every type of education at their door step.

Likewise, the formation of the State also heralded a new era of agricultural development in the Telangana region in that, several irrigation facilities were launched   resulting in phenomenal growth of different crops like rice, (284%) Cotton (1472%) and so on.  The detailed statistical tables and the graphics abstracted from authentic government sources running to several pages - are being appended.

Even a casual browsing of the above figures would establish how shallow  the bogey of “non-development” is, raised by those spearheading  the Telangana agitation.  While deciding an issue of this nature emotions and sentiments cannot obviously play a part and this is exactly what the so called leaders are arousing and playing with.

We request you, Madam President to be so kind as to consider the following detailed note and keep at bay the demands for separate Telangana state made with ulterior motives.  By taking a firm stand you will be carving a niche for yourselves in the annals of the country, as a head of the state who took long term view and firmly stood for the integrity of the nation.

Distortion of facts
The allegation that Telangana region has not developed or has developed less than the Andhra and Rayalaseema regions is totally baseless. Actually, after the formation of the linguistic state of Andhra Pradesh in 1956, it is the Telangana region that has fared much better than the other two regions. This is not surprising because the capital city of Hyderabad is in the Telangana region.

It is a universally acknowledged that development takes place most in and around the capital city. This is true of even the city of Delhi. A foreign writer described Delhi an artificial city because, in its enormous development, it is not representative of the rest of India. Actually, the same is true of most of national capitals and even of state capitals in a federation.

The clamour for separation comes normally from the regions away from the capital. In the case of Telangana, surprisingly, the clamour for separation is from the region which has benefited most. However a little probe would establish that the clamour is not from the grassroots but from the self-seeking political brokers.

Greater beneficiary
After 1956, most of the institutional and industrial developments have taken place in and around the capital city of Hyderabad, though the city had no infrastructural facilities like power, water, transport, access to a port etc. It didn’t have even abundant raw material resources. Because of the Central and State investments, many ancillary Industries have sprung up in this region. The necessary personnel to man the industries have migrated to Hyderabad not only from Andhra Pradesh but from other parts of India as well. This phenomenon has benefited Telangana most. The rest of Andhra Pradesh didn’t see such development, but the Rayalaseema and Andhra regions are not grumbling.

As far as irrigation is concerned, before the formation of the state in 1956, there were no irrigation projects except Nizamsagar in Telangana region. There were some projects in the other two regions like Dhawaleswaram dam on Godavari, Prakasam barrage on Krishna, KC canal from Tungabhadra, dam on Penna , Kanigiri reservoir etc. After the formation of the State, Nagarjunasagar, Srisailam, Somasila. Sriramsagar, Lower Maneru projects have come up. Of these, Nagarjunasagar and Srisailam projects have benefited both Telangana and Andhra regions. Somasila benefited Nellore district for irrigation, besides supplying drinking water to Tirupati and Chennai. Sriramsagar and Lower Maneru projects are exclusively for the benefit of Telangana. Considering all these it can not be said that Telangana has been

deprived by any stretch of imagination.

After the formation of the State, it is the Telangana region that has developed industrially most. Also, all the major service industries like IT and Tourism etc. have developed mostly in Hyderabad city and around. The other two regions have remained virtually stagnant. They remained agricultural as they were at the inception, barring the lone exception of Visakhapatnam.

The other absurd allegation that Telangana has been exploited by the rest of Andhra Pradesh is a travesty of facts. The capital has flown from rest of Andhra Pradesh into Telangana, and not the other way round. The flow of capital has been only a one way street. The generation of employment consequent to fresh investment has taken place only in Telangana region, particularly, in and around Hyderabad. There is nothing surprising about the industries tapping, for technically trained manpower requirements from all over the country, and from other regions of Andhra Pradesh.

Lack of mass base
In spite of such impeachable facts about the development of the Telangana region, if there is still a clamour for separation, it can only be because of the politically disgruntled class and other vested interests and self-seeking  government employees. It is worth noting that the TRS which spearheads the movement for separation has seen a gradual decrease in its share of the voters in the various elections that have taken place in recent years. Had the TRS had a real mass base, it would not be craving for alliances with other parties. The very fact that the TRS is eagerly searching for political partners would show how diffident it is. Likewise, political parties too want to jump on the band wagon with an eye on the ensuing elections.

It needs to be noted that Telangana started from a lower development base. For ages, it was under the Nizam’s rule, whereas the rest of Andhra Pradesh was under the British rule, which was relatively better off, with greater facilities for education under the British government and lesser social suppression of the weaker classes.

Inequalities between regions because of historical and other reasons are such that they cannot be wiped off in a day. What is needed is to judge whether regional imbalances are being gradually minimized over a period. Judged by this standard, Telangana region has benefited more by its integration than the other two regions. Thus the shoe is on the other foot.

A slogan of culture of Telangana being in jeopardy and that its self-respect is damaged is again a bogey. In these days of global integration, no region’s culture is in tact. Every region benefits from its exposure to global culture. Concepts like individual dignity and freedom from servility have spread even in a stifled atmosphere of Telangana region after the formation of the state. If separate Telangana should happen, there is the danger of a reversion to the original state -  when the servant can not see the master in the eye and he will be obliged  to carry his chappals. Such slavery was widespread in Telangana region and not in the rest of Andhra Pradesh.

Pining for slaves
The dominant castes/ classes feel deprived because, after integration, they don’t enjoy their old power and privileges. In a separate Telangana, it is exactly the minorities, the dalits, the tribes from the hills, and the landless working class that will suffer the most and will see an erosion of their dignity and relative freedom which they have slowly got after integration. The so called loss of culture or self-respect is more a call for the restoration of the old privileges on the part of the exploiters than anything else.

Historically speaking, the word Telangana originally meant only a region of the Telugu speaking people. The Telugus were united under 1) Andhrasathavahanas,  2) Kakatiyas 3) Vijayanagara empire and 4) even Nizam before certain districts were ceded by him to the British. It is interesting to know that, at the beginning of the 16th century, it was the coastal and adjoining region that was shown as Telangana in a Map from the book “India-A History” by John Keay (Page: 280) Publisher: Harper Collins.(Copy enclosed).

The formation of a separate state of Andhra Pradesh is a culmination of the dream of all Telugu people and the result of the sacrifices of so many patriotic people. The dream should not be allowed to be shattered by the machinations of a few short-sighted, self-seeking, and power-hungry, political activists. The political parties are toeing the line and are aligning only for drawing political mileage. They have no other interest except self- interest and short term gain.

The so-called “sentiment” (which is more a catchy slogan) is limited to the power brokers. If at all there is some “sentiment, it is because of the ignorance of the masses and because the relevant facts and figures are not made known to them. So there is an urgent need to make available the correct facts and figures to the masses and to educate them. This can best be done by the government in power.

The Telangana movement has been whipped up at different points of time by the politically disgruntled elements. Similarly, a counter movement for a separate Andhra region was also seen in the past. The Central leadership of those times stood rock-like and didn’t yield. There is a need to exhibit the same determination even today when political morality in generally is at its lowest ebb.

If Central leadership yields to every passing whims of “sentiment” or to the machinations of the self-declared defenders of regional interests, it will eventually lead to the balkanization of the country.

There are a number of Hindi speaking states. But that exception apart, linguistic states have a cultural unity of their own, and this unity deserves to be nurtured and promoted.

There is yet another aspect of the matter. The Dalits and minorities have a unity all over the country which the rest of the population doesn’t enjoy. So the Dalits and minorities will have a greater say in a larger state. They are more vulnerable in a smaller state.

Considering that we are passing through troubled times now, we look forward to you to be as firm and steadfast as central leadership of the fast, in not entreating bifurcation of states any further.

With respectful regards,
Yours sincerely,
United NRI Telugu People.
Dallas, TX, USA.

chandra mohan reddy
India chandra mohan reddy said:

You are right.  Now a days the uncoming generation is in a state where they dont want tell their casts,religions and regions.  These vested interests are taking Andhra back to the remote days.  We have passed all those days and brought this shape to every culter,habits,thoughts and lyfestyle. Its the responsibility of every person to shed the feels of seperatism. Seperate Telangana would bring ONLY PROBLEMS.  WHATEVER THESE SEPERATISTS SAY IS ALREADY GOT DISCOUNTED IN EVERY ASPECT OF LIFE OF ANDHRA.
Whate I feel is the united andhra agitators should somehow organise the meetings here in Telangana also to expose the the importance of being united. TRS people are behaving very intelligently by not allowing any such meetings in Hyderabad in order to mitigate the voice of United andhra.  The government of India should put this question to seperatists.
And also the central govt( of course state govt is already dead) should come out with the facts.  In case if the Telangana is cheated really..its the mistake of central government also becoz they also alocated many funds to different regions.
I want putforward one more thing here...asking for a seperate state is not a small thing...if there are such intentional imbalances in the state..what is the INTELLIGENCE doing...why couldnt the Intelligence in the state and in the central recommend the government to form a seperate state?..does it mean TRS is more shrewed and powerfun than the state/central intelligence?
over all its all the game for power...and mass people are getting attracted.  The state government officials should answer all the questions raised by the TRS leaders.  Then only the intensity of the feel for seperatism would get mitigated.

So my dear Andhra state govt...please let the concerned officers speak the truth to answer the questoins raised by TRS and co.

regards
chandra mohan reddy

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