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How many people under Below Poverty Line in Telangana? How many in other region?

18. December 2009 by close to reality 7 Comments

While going through the false propaganda against the people of non telangana region, though i am from telangana, i couldn't believe some of stories they said. So, i wanted to sit and go through the facts. So, today as i am off from work, i have gone through the real facts by district and by mandal. These are not the figures collected by any political party or local media.
These are the figures concluded by IFMR (The Institute for Financial Management and Research (IFMR), Chennai, is one of India’s most prestigious business schools and academic institutions. Established in 1970, it is recognized as an Institution of National Importance by the Ministry of Finance. Since its inception, IFMR’s mission has been focused on contributing to growth and development efforts in India with an emphasis on finance and research.).
And i consolidated (it took me few hours to do this) those figures by district. Now i am leaving it to the people of andhra pradesh to decide "is the propaganda by Pro Telangana teams is true or are they all having a single agenda to blame people of non telangana region without even knowing the facts?
go through the facts here. The number of people below poverty line district wise.

So, from the above figures we can understand how KCR used people of three districts (Mahabubnagar, Karimnagar, Warangal) and expanded his mission to all the other districts in Telangana. It is a total exploitation. You can find the figures here Statistical Analysis of Development in 3 regions of United Andhra Pradesh

from the above figures we can easily know that though over all telangana figures are slightly better than other regions, you can see by the first 9 districts total comparision too.. Actually Telangana region numbers (below poverty line) are lesser compare to the other regions.

So, now i would like to ask the government why not they give this information to the print media and other media and let the people of the state to know the facts? Is there a match fixing between KCR of TRS and Congress Government in Andhra Pradesh and Delhi?

One more thing, People of two regions are moving towards a separation and the whole state is going through the tough time, at this crucial time, what should be the role of State media? to write about KCR's urine infection? or two bring in the facts along with figures and let the people to decide what they should do? when they can write about sodium and potasium percentage figures in KCR's body, why can't they write some figures like BPL, income sources by region, expenditures by region etc., ? If media don't write or show these facts how a common man can know  those things? Is it the infection to 'KCR ucchha' or 'Andhra Media'?

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Jaihind
India Jaihind said:

1) There are many lies propogated by Telangana leaders.This is just one of them.The population of the region is less than Andhra region and they want more funds. How come ??telangana minus hyd accounts for 22% of state revenues and they get 28% of state money. Is that not sufficient.
2) The geography of the region doesnt allow a major dam construction to be built but the leaders dont understand this.
3)What are their leaders doing when the region is neglected. They take a Rajyasabha seat and shut their mouth for a while.Or get some money in their belly and make people fool..

Akash
India Akash said:

Another pack of lies. But let me first put some questions to the author of this article(?)Or one question would do it:

1) What is this IFMR? From where they had collected the alleged data and what is their source of collection of the data. What was the method of collection of the data?

I want to ask the Jaihind (actually his name should be changed to shamehind) why do you insist that Telangana should not be a separate state? The answer is only that you want to exploit it. Imperialist jokers are inventing all lies to satisfy themselves. Shame on you all.

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ AKASH

you google what IFMR is, it is not so difficult for you to find that, and you can find the facts as well.

this data has been collected by ministry of rural development with the support of IFMR

you can find more details at bpl.nic.in website.

we right the facts which can not satisfy everyone, especially the separatists. because we are for United AP.

Kumar
India Kumar said:

Welcome to the new cheat club.
for 50 years they have bent their back to the bastard doratanam...
Banchan kalmokkuta...
It was the united telugu people who supported the anti razakar movement.
It was karnool that hosted the pirate radio station against the Nizam Radio. plans for attacks on Razakars were made  in Vijayawada
Who you call theives were instrumental in the armed telangana struggle.

My father was a communist who personally participated in this movement . He hails from Guntur.
Get over the self pity drama.

You run the race work hard and develop the region, you sulk and start getting depressed you become a looser...

Best Regards,
Kumar

United NRI
United States United NRI said:

read it for facts.

To,
The President of India,
Rashtrapathi Bhavan,
New Delhi.

Respected Madam President,

We look forward to you for your kind intervention in the matter of the demand for a separate Telangana State, as it is engineered and pushed forward by self-seeking and short-sighted small - time power brokers, politically unemployed, arousing passions and raising a bogey of “non-development” --- the two hallmarks of the Telangana movement. It hardly needs a mention that edifice of their case is based on twisted facts and doctored statistics.

The movement has already taken its toll, and it is fast moving towards spreading disaffection and hatred among people.

Thus there is an urgent need to arrest the movement and call it a bluff. Even a casual look at the statistics cited in this exhaustive note would conclusively establish how fallacious their argument is. Far from the Telangana region not making any progress,  it is this area which has registered phenomenal growth in almost all areas of development one could think of,  when compared to  both Andhra and Rayalseema regions.

Telangana’s growth
In 1955-56, there were about 22,000 schools in Andhra and Rayalseema regions whereas during the same period Telangana region had hardly 8000 schools.  After about 50 years, the numbers rose to about 55,000 in Andhra and Rayalseema regions as against (about) 41,000 schools in Telangana region.  Thus the percentage growth in the Telangana region was 413% whereas it was just about 155% in the other two regions put together.

Likewise, the percentage growth of enrolment in the Telangana region was about 916% whereas the growth was just 235% in Andhra and Rayalseema regions. Similarly there was a phenomenal increase in the number of teachers recruited in Telangana Region (366%), where as it was just normal (130%) in Andhra and Rayalseema region. Similar is the picture in respect of collegiate education too.

Barring one in Warangal and a few in the city of Hyderabad, there were absolutely no Science and Arts colleges in Telangana districts up to 1955-56, since there was no educational or other development worth its name till then. This was in direct contrast to what prevailed in Andhra and Rayalaseema regions.

In short, the formation of A.P. in 1956 was a boon to the children of Telangana region, (both urban and rural) and to-day they enjoy facilities for every type of education at their door step.

Likewise, the formation of the State also heralded a new era of agricultural development in the Telangana region in that, several irrigation facilities were launched   resulting in phenomenal growth of different crops like rice, (284%) Cotton (1472%) and so on.  The detailed statistical tables and the graphics abstracted from authentic government sources running to several pages - are being appended.

Even a casual browsing of the above figures would establish how shallow  the bogey of “non-development” is, raised by those spearheading  the Telangana agitation.  While deciding an issue of this nature emotions and sentiments cannot obviously play a part and this is exactly what the so called leaders are arousing and playing with.

We request you, Madam President to be so kind as to consider the following detailed note and keep at bay the demands for separate Telangana state made with ulterior motives.  By taking a firm stand you will be carving a niche for yourselves in the annals of the country, as a head of the state who took long term view and firmly stood for the integrity of the nation.

Distortion of facts
The allegation that Telangana region has not developed or has developed less than the Andhra and Rayalaseema regions is totally baseless. Actually, after the formation of the linguistic state of Andhra Pradesh in 1956, it is the Telangana region that has fared much better than the other two regions. This is not surprising because the capital city of Hyderabad is in the Telangana region.

It is a universally acknowledged that development takes place most in and around the capital city. This is true of even the city of Delhi. A foreign writer described Delhi an artificial city because, in its enormous development, it is not representative of the rest of India. Actually, the same is true of most of national capitals and even of state capitals in a federation.

The clamour for separation comes normally from the regions away from the capital. In the case of Telangana, surprisingly, the clamour for separation is from the region which has benefited most. However a little probe would establish that the clamour is not from the grassroots but from the self-seeking political brokers.

Greater beneficiary
After 1956, most of the institutional and industrial developments have taken place in and around the capital city of Hyderabad, though the city had no infrastructural facilities like power, water, transport, access to a port etc. It didn’t have even abundant raw material resources. Because of the Central and State investments, many ancillary Industries have sprung up in this region. The necessary personnel to man the industries have migrated to Hyderabad not only from Andhra Pradesh but from other parts of India as well. This phenomenon has benefited Telangana most. The rest of Andhra Pradesh didn’t see such development, but the Rayalaseema and Andhra regions are not grumbling.

As far as irrigation is concerned, before the formation of the state in 1956, there were no irrigation projects except Nizamsagar in Telangana region. There were some projects in the other two regions like Dhawaleswaram dam on Godavari, Prakasam barrage on Krishna, KC canal from Tungabhadra, dam on Penna , Kanigiri reservoir etc. After the formation of the State, Nagarjunasagar, Srisailam, Somasila. Sriramsagar, Lower Maneru projects have come up. Of these, Nagarjunasagar and Srisailam projects have benefited both Telangana and Andhra regions. Somasila benefited Nellore district for irrigation, besides supplying drinking water to Tirupati and Chennai. Sriramsagar and Lower Maneru projects are exclusively for the benefit of Telangana. Considering all these it can not be said that Telangana has been

deprived by any stretch of imagination.

After the formation of the State, it is the Telangana region that has developed industrially most. Also, all the major service industries like IT and Tourism etc. have developed mostly in Hyderabad city and around. The other two regions have remained virtually stagnant. They remained agricultural as they were at the inception, barring the lone exception of Visakhapatnam.

The other absurd allegation that Telangana has been exploited by the rest of Andhra Pradesh is a travesty of facts. The capital has flown from rest of Andhra Pradesh into Telangana, and not the other way round. The flow of capital has been only a one way street. The generation of employment consequent to fresh investment has taken place only in Telangana region, particularly, in and around Hyderabad. There is nothing surprising about the industries tapping, for technically trained manpower requirements from all over the country, and from other regions of Andhra Pradesh.

Lack of mass base
In spite of such impeachable facts about the development of the Telangana region, if there is still a clamour for separation, it can only be because of the politically disgruntled class and other vested interests and self-seeking  government employees. It is worth noting that the TRS which spearheads the movement for separation has seen a gradual decrease in its share of the voters in the various elections that have taken place in recent years. Had the TRS had a real mass base, it would not be craving for alliances with other parties. The very fact that the TRS is eagerly searching for political partners would show how diffident it is. Likewise, political parties too want to jump on the band wagon with an eye on the ensuing elections.

It needs to be noted that Telangana started from a lower development base. For ages, it was under the Nizam’s rule, whereas the rest of Andhra Pradesh was under the British rule, which was relatively better off, with greater facilities for education under the British government and lesser social suppression of the weaker classes.

Inequalities between regions because of historical and other reasons are such that they cannot be wiped off in a day. What is needed is to judge whether regional imbalances are being gradually minimized over a period. Judged by this standard, Telangana region has benefited more by its integration than the other two regions. Thus the shoe is on the other foot.

A slogan of culture of Telangana being in jeopardy and that its self-respect is damaged is again a bogey. In these days of global integration, no region’s culture is in tact. Every region benefits from its exposure to global culture. Concepts like individual dignity and freedom from servility have spread even in a stifled atmosphere of Telangana region after the formation of the state. If separate Telangana should happen, there is the danger of a reversion to the original state -  when the servant can not see the master in the eye and he will be obliged  to carry his chappals. Such slavery was widespread in Telangana region and not in the rest of Andhra Pradesh.

Pining for slaves
The dominant castes/ classes feel deprived because, after integration, they don’t enjoy their old power and privileges. In a separate Telangana, it is exactly the minorities, the dalits, the tribes from the hills, and the landless working class that will suffer the most and will see an erosion of their dignity and relative freedom which they have slowly got after integration. The so called loss of culture or self-respect is more a call for the restoration of the old privileges on the part of the exploiters than anything else.

Historically speaking, the word Telangana originally meant only a region of the Telugu speaking people. The Telugus were united under 1) Andhrasathavahanas,  2) Kakatiyas 3) Vijayanagara empire and 4) even Nizam before certain districts were ceded by him to the British. It is interesting to know that, at the beginning of the 16th century, it was the coastal and adjoining region that was shown as Telangana in a Map from the book “India-A History” by John Keay (Page: 280) Publisher: Harper Collins.(Copy enclosed).

The formation of a separate state of Andhra Pradesh is a culmination of the dream of all Telugu people and the result of the sacrifices of so many patriotic people. The dream should not be allowed to be shattered by the machinations of a few short-sighted, self-seeking, and power-hungry, political activists. The political parties are toeing the line and are aligning only for drawing political mileage. They have no other interest except self- interest and short term gain.

The so-called “sentiment” (which is more a catchy slogan) is limited to the power brokers. If at all there is some “sentiment, it is because of the ignorance of the masses and because the relevant facts and figures are not made known to them. So there is an urgent need to make available the correct facts and figures to the masses and to educate them. This can best be done by the government in power.

The Telangana movement has been whipped up at different points of time by the politically disgruntled elements. Similarly, a counter movement for a separate Andhra region was also seen in the past. The Central leadership of those times stood rock-like and didn’t yield. There is a need to exhibit the same determination even today when political morality in generally is at its lowest ebb.

If Central leadership yields to every passing whims of “sentiment” or to the machinations of the self-declared defenders of regional interests, it will eventually lead to the balkanization of the country.

There are a number of Hindi speaking states. But that exception apart, linguistic states have a cultural unity of their own, and this unity deserves to be nurtured and promoted.

There is yet another aspect of the matter. The Dalits and minorities have a unity all over the country which the rest of the population doesn’t enjoy. So the Dalits and minorities will have a greater say in a larger state. They are more vulnerable in a smaller state.

Considering that we are passing through troubled times now, we look forward to you to be as firm and steadfast as central leadership of the fast, in not entreating bifurcation of states any further.

With respectful regards,
Yours sincerely,
United NRI Telugu People.
Dallas, TX, USA.

kiran
India kiran said:



Hail O the great person who has started this,

This is a number of rural households and not the no of people who are  below poverty line.

Looks like you guys wanna prove something out of some numbers which is irrelevant in this context.


Get real stats on irrigation please.
Telangana benefited from Srisailam dam? a big joke

how much land is submerged in Telangana for srisailam reservior, nagarjunasagar reservior, How much water does telangana get from nagarjunasagar. forget about Srisailam, not even a drop comes to telangana even though all the reservior part is in Telangana.

Do you know about Polavaram my dear great analysts ?
read about it.
Its again the same story and khammam district will bear the brunt of submergence where as not even a drop will be given to telangana. Give me a reason why the AP goverment is goin ahead with Polavaram even though it get any environmental clearance initially, they some how managed it later. Read more on Polavaram on IWMI website. They want to take away waters from godavari to krishna because they are taking water from krishna to penna basin.




the poor farmers in telangana dont get their rightful share of water for irrigation and have to spend a lot on money for boring wells and paying electricity bills. where as the two great rivers go by their proximity. where as the canal irrigated regions get surplus water without any additional expenditure.


Why do you think Nizam was the richest person on earth. Though he was a tyrant and snatched everything from people, where did people get the money?. Previously the Nizams used to maintain tank irrigation in the form of maintaining lakes etc. Which was not followed after the united state was formed The State focussed on the great dams to be built which will submerge the telangana regions and will benefit the downstream people.

SOme body was talking about geography.
Look where maharastra and karnataka has built their dams, for that matter where is srisailam dam Built?



Andhra was more developed before 1956?
where did the state of Andhra pradesh get coal from to generate electricity  for all these years?
I think you guys should read the SRC report which was submitted in 1955, before the state united. i am providing you with these links.

en.wikisource.org/.../India_States_Reorganisation_Commission_Report_Telangana_Andhra

focus more on the irrigation projects proposed on godavari and the economy and the capital part.


The economy was great in the erstwhile Hyderabad state, But the people were backward, I agree.
even now its the same except that now the economy is centered around Hyderabad.


Go read more on gentle mans agreement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen's_agreement_of_Andhra_Pradesh(1956)

How many promises have been kept?
you decide

Jai Andhra movement was against the existing mulki rules

read about Mulki rules.
Where is the regional standing committee in the assembly and what about the deputy chief minister post?

i can provide you more data if you want.


The issue about Hyderabad is really a concern.
Its Cosmopolitan now and even i would like it to continue so, with equal rights for all people.

Read about the history of Hyderabad dear people, what a great city it was before 1956 and it has continued to be so over the years and has become internationally famous because of IT (chandra babu) which inturn is a result of liberalization of economy brought about by the late P.V.Narsimha Rao in the entire country.  Bangalaore has also become famous during this time.

But keep in mind as to how many people have sacrificed their lands for  IT parks, BT parks, INternational airport, HADA area, Outer ring round and surrounding areas. read about their reloaction. Most of the wealth in hyderabad is in the form of lands.

whom did these belong to initially?

well
Good luck
we all are same, being Indians but democracy should ensure equality in all dimensions.



















Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ Kiran.

We can write pages and fill the comments.
But the logic is simple. if these figures are rural households, but not under BPL, according to you only half of state population is living in the rural andhra pradesh and half is living in the cities.

Is it logical? there is no need to publish wrong data, you can approach IFMR if you need clarification. Thank you.

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